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Friday, October 5 || 8:57:00 AM

Hey… CAUTION!

This is going to be a long entry due to a lot of quotation from other people. But let me start by apologising to joel and jacinth as I have gonna my pay from essence. (With the help of my bf’s mom who call complain and threaten the company.) I tried asking whether she can help to collect the pay for both of you, but she say it is kinda not related as she claimed as my mother to lodge the complaint.

It all started with all this that makes me boils…

Someone creates a thread on Flowerpod forum and the heading of it is “Cheated Of My Pay. Beware Of This Events Co - Essential Venture”

This is what she wrote… (MissSher- Aug 13 2007, 04:15 PM )

i worked at a OCBC roadshow approx 3 months ago. i got the job from flowerpod forum. there was this girl by the nick of 'icewine', she posted a thread looking for pple to work for her. and i gladly accepted it.

they told me they would issue my pay within 30 days. however, its alr been 3 mths now. time and again i called her, but she kept giving me excuses like 'their client delayed payment', 'we will issue you your pay by next week' bla bla bla.

im sick of this. can anyone here advise me on what to do? report to the police? can they do anything? how about MOM?

also, fellow podders. please be careful. do not accept any job by the girl with the nick 'icewine' or ESSENTIAL VENTURE. they are just out to cheat people of their money i bet. fucked up company and people.

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Someone replied her:

QUOTE- (bellerie @ Aug 13 2007, 04:24 PM)

report to the police. go down to essential venture and look for the girl.. do u noe her real name??
or go to OCBC look for help.

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yeah i know her real name. she's called YI TING. i dont tink ocbc would be able to help me, since the employment part is all done on the events company's side.

and the pay isnt even more than a 100. cant believe they would want to cheat me out of such a small amount.

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and someone agree with MissSher...

(Bellerie - Aug 14 2007, 08:07 AM)

sumtimes u jus gt to keep calling the event company and ask them!
How old are uu?? or u can ask the parents to help u abit.. Like u can ask ur parents to call the event company and LOOK for the Girl. u cannt be nice to the girl u noe, else they will drag n drag ur pay.
cos they might think aiya, less than $ 100, mayb we all teenager will jus forget about it after asking a few times and we still didnt manage to get the pay.. than like tis they at an advantage liao leh. if tts the case, than they sort of "cheated" alot of teens b4 too?????

my younger brother encountered such problem b4.. my parents help him, everything settled.
sumtimes this kinda ppl are jus nt scare of us u see.. hahaz.

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AND FINALLY,

(MissSher - Aug 15 2007, 12:01 AM )

thanks alot you girls..i managed to get my pay FINALLY. i called her office, pestered her on the phone plenty of times. until she finally smsed me saying she'd transfer me my pay that night.

what a sucker, i guess you really have to pester them for your pay, if not they'd just 'pretend to forget' about the whole thing.

oh well, at least i've got my money now.

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SOME ANGEL WROTE THIS (DONNO WHETHER IS IT TRUE OR NOT...)

(GirlGrownUp - Aug 31 2007, 05:31 PM )

I worked in this line before. And underneath all the glam as an events coordinator or higher, it actually sucks big time. As a middle-man company, if the client does not pay up, they most probably have no money to pay you in advance. No doubt $100 is a small amount. But the clients and the comapny don't look at individual amounts. They look at the overall amount cos if they pay one, it is right to only pay all. It is just how working life is. So, look on the brighter side of life! Its not that they won't pay you. Its just a matter of time.

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Another one being CHEATED!!!

(Carrots - Sep 21 2007, 10:17 PM)

yes i was kind of cheated by ESSENTIAL VENTURE too...they are a company who handle cases from handphone company like LG and SONY ercisson etc..they recruit promoters for them..during recruitment they will tell u they issue your pay in 30days but actually they already know they cant pay you on time..by the time u ask for pay they will just give you excuses that their client have not give them ur salary..
i worked for the whole july month..and till now i havent got my pay..its been 2monthsss..everytime i ask the event coordinator about my pay she will say its not ready and tell me to contact her next mth..and then she will say next mth and next mth again..this company is out there to cheat people..i felt cheated and angry..
i hope the ministry of manpower will do something to the company..if this goes on many people will be cheated..especially students out there who wanna work part-time to earn some allowance..i mean how can this kind of thing happen? thats ridiculous..

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then someone replied to "carrots"

(BlackBloodBerry - Sep 22 2007, 03:19 AM )

Hi all,

I was in such a situation before and I do understand the frustrations of 'carrots'. Here is what I did:

- Go MOM to file a complaint. DO NOT (sorry for the caps) wait anymore. Try to round up any of your colleagues/friends who worked with you during the roadshow and get them to go with you. Strength in numbers , and it gives your situation more weight and credibility. Remember to bring your IC. MOM will require either one of your IC to file the complaint. Next, MOM will issue a letter to the events company asking them to turn up for a resolution with you, with MOM as a middle man.

I am unable to tell you what happens after that as that stupid events company that owed my money got so worried, they paid us back our money within a week. The letter by MOM will definitely send some shivers...honestly.

Please please do not accept the retarded excuse that the delay is OCBC's problem. You are not working for OCBC but the events company. They have the responsibility to pay you regardless of OCBC's payment.

Please PM me if you have further queries. Due to my personal experience, I really do feel for this issue strongly....

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i feel strongly about this matter too so i went to write my experience out...

by me (staywitme - Oct 1 2007, 04:51 PM )

actually i face the same issue.

i work work for LG during mid of june.. and only up to last week i gotten my pay.

work under this lady call izza.(very rude) she force my friend to work even though she has MC. (my friend fly kite)

then after working two shift for the company. (throughout i heard alot of bad comments abt essence) i quitted. and i was also told that within 30 days can get.

so after 2 mths. i called and i sm s(no answer or replied at all) then when one of my friend whom is working with me and quitted too sms her. she replied but she asked "WHO ARE YOU? " when my friend clearly explained whom he was, she ignored his msg.

i ask alot of times, either no reply or say haven come. 9they dont take initiative to contact you regarding your pay)

so this drags on for a mth. then my bf's mom cant stand it.

and she called and complained. (then the staff say what already inform regarding late pay and staff.) but the fact is that she only mention 30 days. so after much arguement, the lady over the phone say can collect on monday.

so my bf's mom called on monday to double confirm that the cheque is out (because i am having my attachment so my bf and his dad went down to collect for me and they are in a rush so wanna check properly.) and the lady told my bf's mom that the cheque is ready after 2pm.

then they do stunt.

my bf and his dad went down, the "SO CALLED ACCOUNTANT NOT IN" when it is already 3.30pm. and we are require to wait for her to come back before can collect pay.

)(*%^#*)&_*

then my bf's mom called and the person was so bloody rude to her (tell her to ask her daughter's bf to wait for another 3 hours.- because she mention to the staff as my mother(easier to complain).

so my bf's dad was so pissed, he chiong into the room and demand for manger...

after much arguement...

the boss gave cash to my bf...

the company is really very lousy and the welfare and service sucks big time....

i think my bf's mom is so pissed that she wrote or going to write to MOM( with my time sheet as an evident stated that i worked on the 16 and 24 of june)

good luck to them...

sony ericsson is going to leave them if essence tio complain...

i am evil...

sorry all, write too long

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then suddenly there is this BITCH that write something to shoot me.

(GalOUtLoud - Oct 2 2007, 10:03 AM )

Hey people,
this girl here is drawing a picture of a mountain when it is actually just a mole hill.

i am a promoter for this company and have been 1 for more than 6 months, i will give a account of what exactly happened that day..

A few promoters and i were there sitting at the couch awaiting the return of the REAL accountant to return from the bank with our pay.. they apologise to us for making us wait but you cant push the crowds at the banks can you??

this girl's bf i assume from what she said storm into the office demanding his gf pay, they told him that the accountant was away at the bank and requested politely for him to wait for 30 mins and he gave that face that everyone hated. then he left the office. soon after, his dad i persume stormed into the office, this grey hair man in formal attire, started shouting and screaming at the top of his voice. i was thinking, what a let down for a man his age and experience to cause such a din.. then a personnel told him that he told the mum that the cheque will be ready by 5pm and he came at 3.30pm and he started shouting that you think i'm so free ah? but come on people.. the appointment is 5pm and you came early at 3.30pm and u wanna make such a fuss and chaos is so unglamorous. he was then ushered into the boss's office..

i heard the pay was for lesser than $150, the troubles, the chaos, the tense situation were so avoidable if he came at 5pm.. the company policy is that the pay will be ready 60 days (2months) after u work, the process is normal for a event company who is outsourced by a MNC LG mobile. there are so many departments to go through before the pay is finally approved.. everyone just nod their head when the policy is told to them but scream and shout when they perform badly and were booted out.. sigh..

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As everyone know my temper, i cant stand all this... so i shooted back...

by me (staywitme- Oct 2 2007, 10:25 AM )

let me guess, so there are essence staff working here trying to clear their bad reputation?

since you are a promoter there, you mention that there is a 60 days grace period(which i was inform 30days) , i have waited for more MORE THAN 90DAYS.

and i wasnt inform anything regarding when to get my pay at all... even my 'so called incharge' dint even reply my call or sms! then what is this?

i have to admit $150 is not a lump sum(but it is still my hardearn money for standing for 2days and trying hard to sell the phones.

if you are a parent and your child work for the money ,for 3 mths there aint anynews regarding her pay.. what will you do? put yourself in the shoes.

and till now, both my other friends whom went in to work tgt with me haven even receive their pay. (they ask for it.. .but still ,not given at all.)

so tell me now, what other methods to demand for pay?

if it a good company, will you have to wait for 3 mths? and no response?

and you mention " the process is normal for a event company who is outsourced by a MNC LG mobile. there are so many departments to go through before the pay is finally approved.. "

is totally bullsh*t.

i am working RIGHT NOW FOR SAMSUNG MOBILE under TBC... why dint i face such a problem? and my grace period is ONLY 15 DAYS.

what i am tryin to put across is that if they have no money to pay back in time (as written in the contract) they should have told us.. (then it is when we decide whether WE wanna work for it) and not work already then keep dragging the pay... AINT IT IS JUST LIKE A SCAM?

that is why they are always SHORT of promoters.

and as for you, you mention you work for 6 mths already.. (so that means you have pass through the 3mths without getting any money at all...) then now you are taking money in monthly...

so that means:

you work for...

1st mth : NO MONEY
2nd mth: NO MONEY
3rd mth: NO MONEY
4th mth: GET YOUR FIRST MONTH PAY
5th: GET YOUR 2ND MONTH PAY...

and so on...

people who work are either earning money to live a life... or urgent need... (which student wants to work if they have enuff money to spend on?

OH YA, it was AFTER 2 PM , IF YOU CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT IT MEANS.

p.s: talk to lawyer and waiting to proceed a lawyer letter to mom to stop ppl from being scam by you or the company

and if wanna evidence i can upload my timesheet to show...
i am not like someone who need to crap bout stuff...

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And the reason why i mention she is one of the staff working in essence because of her profile...

Group: Podders
Posts: 2 (all replying to me.. is there any possibilities there a promoter from essence will join the member and just so coincidently see my tag?)
Joined: 2-October 07
Member No.: 35,750
Gender: Female Podder

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and she replied me...

(Galoutloud - Oct 2 2007, 04:27 PM )

Hey what you meant scam by me? i'm only a promoter, how will i scam u? use your brain before you speak? surely hope i wont be deployed to the same location as u..

lawyer consultation is free? lol everyone will start sending each other letters.. and i will send one to you too for slandering me

"p.s: talk to lawyer and waiting to proceed a lawyer letter to mom to stop ppl from being scam by you or the company"

get a life sister

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so i have nothing better to do but to be so nice to her...

By me ( staywitme - Oct 2 2007, 05:21 PM )

it is my dad's friend with regards to the lawyer.

hmmm... i hope too we wont be in the same location too.. =)

if you sue me for slander. i can introduce him to you.

and to all dudes, it is my personal experience with regards to this company. and if let's say you have join like this lady and love it there. it is your business...

=)

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another poddler trying to cool both of us down...

(tangtang- Oct 3 2007, 01:39 AM )

think lets not all get so emotinal here hao bu hao

i can u/s de frustrations of being unpaid regardless how small de amt is

lets not stray off de topic

stay cool =)

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and i replied this...

by me (staywitme - Oct 3 2007, 10:43 AM )

i tihnk it is quite okie for event company to drag for a mth. (30days) which i tihnk is pretty reasonable...

as long as you can get the pay back promptly...

=)

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and someone support me...

(unpolished gem - Yesterday, 08:54 PM )

Im with staywitme on this. I used to be from events company as an account executive (not accounts ok haha) 30 days is acceptable but companies do have the responsibility to update on the payment status if they cant fulfil it on time.

Working is like trading. A staff gives her time and effort for the company and its being exchanged for money. In NO way shd the staff been made to feel 'small' or unimportant irregardless of how much the pay is. The company shd be responsible enough to be prompt in their payment or at least before the grace period.

And yes, no one shd endure any attitudes. If the company does not have the courtesy to update you, by all means go pester for your salary. Fact is alot of companies take advantage of teenagers especially so dont be a victim.

Staywitme is only sharing her experience ppl cld learn from. I totally agree with her. =)

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FINALLY, THE QUOTATION ARE OVER FOR THE MOMENT...

but the big problem is that, baby shows the forum to his mom who is so pissed off with the "galoutloud" as she had insulted her husband and her son...

so instead of going through mps to write letter to mom,she send in as an individual.

but to me, i still felt baby shouldn't do something like that. knowing his mother's character, it will boils her if she see the forum.. and i know why she gave it to his mom to see... (because he wasn't happy with the :galoutloud" too.)

but he dint spare me a thought. i mean i am the one that cause so much problem to his family.. with all the arguement, complaint, threatening to get back MY pay. and in the end it was his family that is being insulted.

i mean it is not fair to them, deep down my heart i was thinking it would have been better if i didn't even collect my pay. then it wouldn't have been in this mess.

this morning just receive a msg from baby's mother...

"download and save the forum to your computer. icomplain to MOM about essence already."

it stress me even more. a forum for people to write out what they feel has turn into a pool of evidence for people to complain.

maybe i should be happy that essence will bear its fruit for ill-treating its staff. but i am so stress up with causing so much problem into his family.

with or without the forum, she will still write to MOM.. why make the whole family unhappy just because of the forum...

you are me to not to think so much into it.. it is jsut a forum.. let it be...

then why are u holding so tight to it? let it go, release it... there are just some bastard that like to live their own life... then why be bothered with them then?

oh ya, the link of the forum if you are interested to see the whole thread lo...

http://www.flowerpod.com.sg/forums/index.php?showtopic=40680&hl=essence